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Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 20:43:41 -0500
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From: Joe McGloin <XKAES@A....>
Subject: Re: 16mm enthusiast. (Introduction)

The main difference between the Minolta MGS/QT and the MG is the image size.
The MG used double perf film and had an image size of 10x14mm. The MGS and
the later QT used single perf film for a 12x17mm image size. The increased
image size makes enlargements much easier and improves the quality. Limited
cropping is possible! For more details check out the 16mm section of the
CAMERAS section of the SUBCLUB.

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Date: Tue, 26 Nov 1996 21:17:45 -0500
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From: Bernard Delgado <delgado@NYTIMES.COM>
Subject: Re: 16mm enthusiast. (Introduction)
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>The main difference between the Minolta MGS/QT and the MG is the image size.
> The MG used double perf film and had an image size of 10x14mm. The MGS and
>the later QT used single perf film for a 12x17mm image size. The increased
>image size makes enlargements much easier and improves the quality. Limited
>cropping is possible! For more details check out the 16mm section of the
>CAMERAS section of the SUBCLUB.
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Battery availablity may be a consideration to some of you.
The Mgs uses a mercury battery.
The QT uses a very hard to find alkaline battery.
The MG has a selenium meter& works on an EV metering system. So shttr
speeds & fstops are linked into one control dial. The MG is the smallest of
the 3 & the widest lense at 20mmf2.8.
The QT seems to have the sharpest lense of the 3. It has only 2 shttr spds
& the slowest lense at 3.5.
3 cool cameras. The QT&MGS can be found in Black finish. The MG only came
in chrome, but gold plated versions are popping up.
The QT was the only minolta model to have a focusing lense. Focusing in Zones.
The QT & MGS also share a lot of the same accessories. Like the slide on
closeup lenses for copying your top secret documents. Min16 stuff was wiped
out by the advent of 110 film. Too bad since the neg size was virtually the
same but the Min16 cassette & cameras were generally smaller than 110
items. Min16 could generally be sharper than 110 because of the better
negative flatness from the design of the minolta's pressure plate.
Things dont get better, they just change.

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Date: Wed, 27 Nov 1996 08:31:27 -0500
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From: Joe McGloin <XKAES@AOL.COM>
Subject: Re: 16mm enthusiast. (Introduction)

Here are some other differences between the Minolta models.

1. The 23mm lenses in the MGS and QT are actually wider than the 20mm lens on
the MG. This is the case since the first two had a much larger negative
size. For comparison, the 20mm on the MG has the same perspective as a 51mm
lens on a 35mm camera. The 23mm lens of the MGS and QT would be like a 47mm
lens. Not an enourmous difference.

2. The MGS also has shutter preferred automatic exposure with a fairly
sensitive CDS meter. Just set the shutter speed and the camera does the
rest. There is a reaout on the top of the camera that shows you the aperture
that the camera selected. The other two cameras are variations of match
needle metering -- just as accurate, but a little slower. The MGS can also
be set for full manual contral as well.

3. Two types of spy finders were made that fit the MGS and QT. One you hold
at waist level the other at 90 degrees from where you are facing. Actually
it is the same finder, you just flip it over depending on which finder you
want.

4. The MGS and QT had the following filters: IA, Yellow, and 80B. It also
had parallax corrected closeup lenses to take pictures at set distances of
800mm, 400m and 250mm.

I've found the MGS to be a great all round performer. With the fast 2.8
lens, fast film (ISO 400 or faster) and CDS meter, I can comfortable take
pictures in low light conditions. With the larger negative size, the grain
is not too bad. When I go outside I use the same film, but to avoid having
to stop down the lens too far (which would cause diffraction problems) I slip
on a Yellow filter with a gelatine neutral density filter attached to the
back. This allows me to use a wider aperture. Who needs 35mm?

 
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